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[keenanj]

We have the dual radio outdoor eor7550 in stock here

http://www.keenansystems.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=279

It is a sealed IP6 outdoor AP and has a 802.11b/g/n radio and internal antenna for local client access
& 802.11a/b/g for backhaul w dual n connectors.

High Powered 802.11a/b/g radio provides long distance link
Wireless N 300Mbps speed provides excellent throughput
Signal Strength LED Indicator

post questions here

[keenanj]

I am wanting to purchase the EOC 7550, however I am confused as to exactly what it does and what antenna I need if one is needed and which one you carry that fits its type N connector. I need a unit to connect to an access point 100 yards away (EOC 3610S) and allow users to connect to the 7550 at the remote location to obtain internet access. While I have power at the remote location there is no router or other device to connect the 7550 to.

[keenanj]

The EOC 7550 will work for this.

You would need a directional antenna

http://www.keenansystems.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=179

and pigtail

http://www.keenansystems.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=281

[senthilnathaswami]

I have just installed my EOR-7550, and I'm not yet having success with it. I'm hoping to get some help.

The configuration is:

Ethernet connected to my LAN.
Radio 1 in AP mode broadcasting one SSID used by a couple of remote client bridges, long-haul, high-dBi omni connected to 2.4GHz N port.
Radio 2 in AP mode broadcasting a different SSID used by 802.11n clients in the local vicinity of the unit (built-in omni for this radio).

It's not working as far as I can tell. MacBook Pros can see the 802.11bgn (radio 2) SSID but can't associate. Selecting it gives nothing. iPhones can't even see the SSID.

I'm not really sure what to do at this point. I've tried it with my preferred WPA2 settings, as well as completely open, just to test. No clients will associate except the EnGenius CBs!

Also, there is something in the datasheet about user isolation. I definitely don't want that turned on, and I'm wondering how to find the setting. There is nothing in the configuration about this.

Also, with my EOC-2610 client bridges, I have ECB-3610 APs connected to them in order to broadcast a local network in their vicinity. I'm wondering if I can have those broadcast the same SSID or if it has to be different. I also wonder if I need to turn on spanning tree to prevent loops.

[keenanj]

Hello, Since there are many possible configurations for the eor-7550 and some can cause network loops and other problems if you are not carefull.

There is no reason to use both radios in AP mode. The high power radio1 is for a backhaul in CB mode. And the bgn radio2 is for client access in AP mode. If you enable both radios on a overlapping channel 1,6 or 11 you will of cource also have problems.

I would start slow and get your devices working with the builtin radio2 (bgn) in ap mode disable radio 1 to start.

check that you have dhcp server disabled.

please call tech support if you need help setting up they can walk you through it Engenius Tech Support 888-735-7888 x517

[senthilnathaswami]

I understand. Thank you so much. That fixed it.

I also realized that I have arranged my new hardware in a different way than is ideal. That is my mistake. I should put this EOR-7550 out in one of the remote locations where I have to have CB back-haul and local AP functionality in the same place! I'm getting it now.

One of the EOC-2610 that I got recently is not working. I submitted an inquiry on the website about it. It gives me an Apache test page when I try to log in to its web interface. I have tried resetting it, but that doesn't help. Is there something I can do here to get it up and running on my own, or do I need to send it back to you for exchange? I can log in to its IP via telnet, so if there is a way I can flash it via telnet and get it up and running, I'm willing to try.

[keenanj]

The only way you would be getting a apache server page is if the bridge connected to a remote AP and you have a ip address conflict the 2610 does not use apache.


You need to reset the 2610 unit to default using this procedure

Q: How do I reset the eoc-2610, eoc-5610, eoc-1650, ecb3500 or eap-3660 to factory default.

A: hold reset while you apply power release reset after 60 seconds.

or the engenius locator utility

http://keenansystems.com/EnGenius_locator_program_reset_ap_find_lost_ip.htm

[senthilnathaswami]

I still have the EOR-7550 connected as my central AP right now, with radio 1 in AP mode and radio 2 disabled. This is because I need to use a high-gain external omni for some remote CBs to connect to that are pretty far away. (I do plan to use the EOR-7550 remotely later when my replacement EOC-2610 comes for this central application.)

I seem to be getting connectivity issues between a CB that is relatively close by and this EOR-7550 with the big external omni. The AP is reporting that it is hearing a signal strength of about 41-44% from the CB, which is only about 150 feet away or so.

That signal strength seems okay to me, I guess. But it disappears completely every few minutes, and I can't access the CB from the wifi network that it is connecting to at the central AP.

Any pointers?

[keenanj]

make sure you are using the correct 2.4Ghz connector on the eor7550 for radio 1.

may be noise on the channel you are using try a clear channel or spectrum analyzer.

[senthilnathaswami]

I definitely am using the 2.4GHz connector, and I am getting excellent signal. From the CB I can see 100% signal coming from the AP, but at times it seems to disappear completely. That could be the noise. But 100% at 1,250 feet? I know I have 15 dBi antennas on both sides, and 600 mW transmitters on both sides. Perhaps it is too strong and it's getting distorted or something?

I will try another channel while I await your response.

Thanks again for all this help.

[senthilnathaswami]

It's still doing what it was doing before. It is associating with another AP that is much weaker.

The CB I am having trouble with is an ECB-3610S.

The AP it is associating with is an EOC-3610S. It is getting about 0-1% signal strength from this AP. This AP is now on channel 11 (was 1).

The AP I want it to associate with is the EOR-7550. It is getting 100% signal from this AP. This AP is now on channel 1 (was 11).

Both have the same ssid, the same security settings of WPA2-PSK (WPA2 Only) with AES encryption.

I do notice that the AP listing on the offending CB reports that the security type for the APs is WPA, not WPA2. Is the CB having trouble with WPA2, perhaps? Why would it connect to one AP and not the other, when both APs are set to WPA2 Only and have the same PSK?

Maybe I'm shooting in the dark. I hope this helps.

[fix4all]

Hi Jeff,
The WEB meeting was a bit disappointing. Was difficult to make out what you were saying because of the severe latency/echo. Also, offered some questions, but apparently my voice could not be heard. So , will post here.

Was not clear if an external antenna can be connected for Radio2 in lieu of the internal b/g/n Omni?

Is there also a switchable internal antenna for Radio1 (b/g or a)?

Can it operate down to 24VDC (for solar applications)?

Can BOTH radios be setup in client/bridge mode simultaneously, e.g., to port to a dual-WAN router?

In regard to question above. Does the EOR-7550 use the NOP-8670 main board, and if so, is the second Ethernet port available (active) internally?

A clear picture of the internal main board could sure be helpful.

Thanks, Greg

[keenanj]

Is there also a switchable internal antenna for Radio1 (b/g or a)?

No radio 1 can only be used with the n connectors

Can it operate down to 24VDC (for solar applications)?

No, It requires the included 48v .375a 18w injector since there are 2 radios that can be active it requires twice the power of a single radio unit. I can run it in single radio mode via a 802.1af switch but when you enable both it goes over power budget for the port.

Can BOTH radios be setup in client/bridge mode simultaneously, e.g., to port to a dual-WAN router?

Not yet but it is slated for dual CB firmware soon.


In regard to question above. Does the EOR-7550 use the NOP-8670 main board, and if so, is the second Ethernet port available (active) internally?

It uses its own board I posted a picture here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22019133@N02/4113082542/sizes/l/in/pool-1165324@N24/

It only has one GbE port

[fix4all]

The pic helps, but a bit blurry. Looks like radio 2 (b/g/n) is not switchable to an external :( . It appears segmented from what I can tell w/ three on-board antenna ports?

Are the antenna port connectors all the same type for radios 1 & 2, e.g., U.fl ? If so, I imagine one of the unused external pigtails from radio2 could be re-routed to radio1? If so, can one software select through telnet or WEB interface one of those three antenna ports specifically? and if not, do they operate in diversity routing to the strongest signal/antenna?

Seems like w/ one radio ON and working with the POE switch, that it may need more current supply @ 24V for both radios. If using the SMCGS8P that you stock, the default power supply setting (low) is 15.4W. The 7550 max power is 18W. Was the port power set to HIGH on the POE switch (25W)? Also, using the shortest possible hi-grade Ethernet cable could cure this. Nonetheless, imagine it should work @ 24V with proper POE power supply and cable.

Dual CB... cant wait!

[keenanj]

The pic helps, but a bit blurry. Looks like radio 2 (b/g/n) is not switchable to an external :( . It appears segmented from what I can tell w/ three on-board antenna ports?

yes 3r / 3t for the onboard 802.11n chipset with u.fl connectors.

Are the antenna port connectors all the same type for radios 1 & 2, e.g., U.fl ? If so, I imagine one of the unused external pigtails from radio2 could be re-routed to radio1?

the high power mini pci card has mmcx connectors on it.

If so, can one software select through telnet or WEB interface one of those three antenna ports specifically? and if not, do they operate in diversity routing to the strongest signal/antenna?

they work in 802.11n mode a lot goign on there not sure you can do anything via software.

Seems like w/ one radio ON and working with the POE switch, that it may need more current supply @ 24V for both radios. If using the SMCGS8P that you stock, the default power supply setting (low) is 15.4W. The 7550 max power is 18W. Was the port power set to HIGH on the POE switch (25W)?

The SMCGS8P is a great switch but it only lets me set to port to 15w max it is drawing 4.8w and 98mA. I have a ruckus 7962 pulling 4.7w and 105ma.

more info on the switch here

http://www.keenansystems.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9&products_id=240